the record, they gave, you know, statements, they corroborated each other's stories and it's pretty clear that this is something that was going on in the navy with massa as long as 20 years ago. >> now, you also found that people in the congress were not exactly shocked by this, that there were rumors, there was talk, there were people who had a feeling that this kind of thing was going on. >> yeah. i mean, one of these sailors had talked to, you know, former democratic chief of staff, had warned him that, you know, massa was a bad guy. but i don't think anybody had a real full understanding of just how kind of, you know, freaky massa was when it cams to some of his proclivities and practices towards subordinates. but, you know, doing the reporting today, i talked to a lot of former staffers of his, a lot of former navy shipmates, and it is pretty remarkable, you know, the pattern of behavior, the extent of it, and really the fact that it hasn't become public before now. >> and there's absolutely no bubble around him that protects him from this kind of information, protects us from getting this kind of information, in any way.